Don’t Try to Convince Mormons They Don’t Believe in Christ

As the first in a series of posts dedicated to helping anti-Mormons focus their time more effectively, allow me to start by pointing out the futility of trying to convince Mormons that they are not Christians or that they don’t believe in Christ.

The problem with this mode of attack is that Mormons sincerely believe they are Christians. You can tell them all day long that they aren’t, but they simply won’t believe you. They’ll tell you that they do believe in Christ, that their church is named after Jesus Christ, that they believe in the Bible, that they believe Christ is their Savior, that their Book of Mormon mentions Christ on average every 2.5 verses, etc., and so from their perspective, they don’t understand where you’re coming from when you say they don’t believe in Christ.

From here, many anti-Mormons will slightly modify their tactic to make the claim that Mormons don’t believe in the same Christ other Christians do. This is similar to making the claim that Muslims don’t believe in God because their conceptions about God and His characteristics are somewhat different than those of mainstream Christianity. Anti-Mormons who follow this line of reasoning will have an easier time finding Mormons who are sympathetic, or at least willing to listen, since Mormons would agree that the conceptions held by mainstream or traditional Christianity regarding God and Christ are different in certain key ways than those held by Mormons.

The problem is that having reached this conclusion and mutual agreement with Mormons, you haven’t established to them that they aren’t Christians, just that they are, perhaps, a different type of Christian. But since the same can be said of Protestants and Catholics, this doesn’t provide much satisfaction.

Conclusion? Trying to convince Mormons that they aren’t Christians is an exercise in futility. They simply don’t buy it. Trying to convince other people that Mormons aren’t Christians can backfire as well, since if you tell someone Mormons aren’t Christians, but they then go to a Mormon church and see that the name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and they see all the pictures of Christ in the church, and they hear about Christ in the lessons and sermons, it can spark their curiosity. “How can someone say Mormons aren’t Christians?” they’ll wonder. “I need to look into this some more and figure this out.” This isn’t what you want to happen, so it may be best to just ditch the matter entirely and focus on other aspects of Mormonism.

Comments

  1. Big deal. Even the devils believe, and shudder.

    Do you consider the FLDS or RLDS or any of the hundreds of off shoot groups of Joseph Smith followers to be Mormons? Are they Mormons too? Can we lump together those groups with the Utah Mormons and call all of you Mormons? So Warren Jeffs is Mormon, right? He believes Joseph Smith to be a true prophet and believes in the Book of Mormon to be true also, so using your logic the FLDS are Mormons. Since they still adhere to Joseph Smith's original teachings on polygamy, they say they are the "original" Mormons. Sound familiar??

    Most Mormons will say NO! They are not Mormons! Even though they believe in their prophet and book! But then can't see why Christians don't consider Mormonism to be a part of Christianity even though they say they believe in Jesus and the Bible, and have Jesus' name is in the title of their church. (Which was added in, it was originally the Church of Christ in 1830, then they actually REMOVED his name in 1834 and it was called the Church of the Latter Day Saints for 4 years.)

    Mormons have a completely different perspective of who Jesus and God are and have completely different doctrines than that of Christianity. And since Christians were around first (provably through history) sorry, you guys don't make the cut. Whether you believe it or not doesn't matter. Not to say some Mormons are not Christian, I'm sure there are some. I became a born again Christian while I was still Mormon and didn't remove my name from the records until 2 years later, so it's possible. Different people from all religions can be Christian. But Mormonism is not Christianity. That is a fact. You can even Google it, they are NOT the same thing. I can call myself a little tea pot all day long, it doesn't make it true. Just like Warren Jeffs can call himself Mormon, but you'd deny association with him.

  2. Even your ex Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley does not believe in the same Christ that Christians believe:

    Mormon Prophet Admits He Believes in Another Christ – Not the Traditional JesusBy James K. Walker (Chart and notes by Timothy Oliver)

    Paris, France – In a surprising admission during last month’s three nation European speaking trip, Mormon president Gordon B. Hinckley stated that the Christ he believes in is not the same Christ as the one followed by those outside the LDS Church.

    Hinckley quoted unnamed critics of the LDS Church who claim that Mormons do not believe in the traditional Christ and then he agreed with them.

    The LDS Church News reported: “In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints ‘do not believe in the traditional Christ. No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this the Dispensation of the Fulness [sic] of Times'” (June 20, 1998, ).

    • Is this surprising? Baptists also believe in a different Christ than Methodists, Lutherans believe in a different Christ and Catholics, etc. Martin Luther could have easily said the same thing as Pres. Hinckley in that he didn’t believe in the traditional Christ the Catholic Church believed in, which is why he left the Catholic Church. Beliefs in different Christs is why we have different religions. If everyone believed in the same exact Christ and the same exact gospel then we would all belong to the same religion. So yes, we all have different beliefs, but if we all believe in Christ then what unites us is already greater than what divides us.

      I find it interesting that when I actually get into a discussion of the details with someone about what they believe about Christ and what we Mormons believe about Christ our beliefs aren’t so different, especially in the areas that matter most.

      • Methodist = Me, Lutherans=Lu Catholics- Cat Mormons= MO

        Mes, Lu, Cat, believe Jesus concieved by Holy Spirit [yes] Mo’s [NO]
        do Me, Lu, cat believe Jesus born in Bethlehem [yes] Mo [No] [Jerusalem]
        Was Jesus concieved in Spirit heavenBY GOD Me, Lu, Cat [NO] MO [yes]
        Is Jesus Satan’s older brother Me,Lu Cat [Nooo] Mo [YESSS]

        I’LL SAY YOU GUYS HAVE A DIFFERENT JESUS.

        • How do those differences impact how anyone lives their lives? Btw, Mormons also believe Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

          • Not according to the most perfect book [Book of Mormon]

          • Chapter and verse?

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