Mormons and Isaiah 44:6

As asked in the “Ask Me Questions” portion of this website:

Q: How do Mormons explain Isaiah 44:6?

This verse says that God does not even know of another god. Now if Mormons believe that God the Father is married to multiple mother goddesses, who He would clearly know of if He was, then how can the possibly claim to believe the Bible and deny the basic doctrine of Isaiah 44:6.

A: Let’s start by reading the scripture:

Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Sounds pretty cut and dry, right? Beside me, there is no God, right? Not a lot of room to interpret that any other way. Or is there?

If we skip forward in Isaiah just a tad to Isaiah 47:8, 10, we read this:

Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.

(emphasis added)

This isn’t God speaking, this is the city of Babylon. Is the city of Babylon saying that no other city except Babylon exists? As duly pointed out by FAIR, this would cause some consternation to the city of Ninevah, who in Zephaniah 2:15 states:

This is the rejoicing city that dwelt carelessly, that said in her heart, I am, and there is none beside me: how is she become a desolation, a place for beasts to lie down in! every one that passeth by her shall hiss, and wag his hand.

So what are we to think? Obviously these words weren’t meant to indicate that no other cities existed. They clearly indicate the supremacy, authority, excellency, and/or superiority of these cities. Applying this same interpretation to Isaiah 44:6 we can see that what the scripture clearly means is that God is supreme, and there is no other God at his side, or on the same level he is on. In Isaiah 44:6 God is speaking to people who had a lot of trouble with worshipping idols or other gods, and this scripture was meant to say “You’ve got all these other gods you worship, but I don’t recognize them, they don’t even exist, there is no other god you’ve got that can compare to me. Drop your idol worship and your worship of false gods and worship me.” It was not a statement that there are no other gods, or that man cannot become like God, but rather that there is no other god man should worship, and that the gods these people were worshipping were false gods.

Comments

  1. In our culture where we are encouraged to worship ourselves, Mormonism fits right in. To believe that you yourself are so awesome that someday you can have your own planet and spirit children to worship you is NOT worshiping only God. He knows of the prideful aspirations in your heart. You can't hide your idol worship from Him, He will judge men's hearts.

    God, capital G, is the only God. He uses "gods" (lower case g) to represent anything man puts before Him. This verse is not the only verse where God states He is the only One, there are many throughout the Bible to back this up.

  2. Leah,

    "This verse is not the only verse where God states He is the only One, there are many throughout the Bible to back this up."

    We do not dispute this claim. God has clearly stated that no other gods shall be put before him and we acknowledge this. Our believe in eternal progression is in no way opposed to God saying He is the only One; we worship Him as such.

    Our belief is in Eternal progression, and as we are the children of our Father, at one point we will have children and our children will have children. The family is an eternal institution. As we have children here on earth and we strive to give them all the knowledge, joy, and happiness we can, so God has had children and desires that we, His children, receive all the knowledge, joy, and happiness He has obtained. God did not create this world for us to simply worship Him or for us to be specimen in a petrie dish. He created this world for us to learn about ourselves and to put away sin and follow the example of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, so that we may learn the good from the evil and experience the joy of being joint heirs with Christ.

    "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." (Romans 8:16-17)

  3. Ironic, that even if there is such a thing as spirit children, they would be required to worship the one true God of the universe and not worship Mormons who become gods.

    Exodus 34:14

    "for you shall worship no other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God"

  4. Children of other gods would be required to worship the god that is their father, just as we are required to worship God who is our Heavenly Father.

  5. A new pledge of redemption is given, and a fresh exhortation to trust in Jehovah; the wretchedness of the idols and their worshippers being pointed out, in contrast with Jehovah, the only speaking and acting God.

    Isaiah 44:6 "Thus saith Jehovah the King of Israel, and its Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts; I am first, and I last; and beside me there is no God."

    The fact that His deity, which rules over not only the natural world, but history as well, is thus without equal and above all time, is now proved by Him from the fact that He alone manifests Himself as God, and that by the utterance of prophecy.

    Isaiah 44:7 "And who preaches as I do? Let him make it known, and show it to me; since I founded the people of ancient time! And future things, and what is approaching, let them only make known."

    Jehovah shows Himself as the God of prophecy since the time that He founded עם־עולם (יקרא refers to the continued preaching of prophecy).

    ‛Am‛ōlâm is the epithet applied in Ezekiel 26:20 to the people of the dead, who are sleeping the long sleep of the grave; and here it does not refer to Israel, which could neither be called an "eternal" nation, nor a people of the olden time, and which would have been more directly named; but according to Isaiah 40:7 and Isaiah 42:5, where ‛am signifies the human race, and Job 22:15., where ‛ōlâm is the time of the old world before the flood, it signifies humanity as existing from the very earliest times.

    The prophecies of Jehovah reach back even to the history of paradise. The parenthetical clause, "Let him speak it out, and tell it me," is like the apodosis of a hypothetical protasis: "if any one thinks that he can stand by my side."

    The challenge points to earlier prophecies; with ואתיּות it takes a turn to what is future, אתיות itself denoting what is absolutely future, according to Isaiah 41:23, and תּבאנה אשׁר what is about to be realized immediately; lâmō is an ethical dative.

  6. “if any one thinks that he can stand by my side.”

    Ronnie, while this is absolutely true and Jesus is saying throughout the Bible that none stands by His side, we have to look at the fact that He appointed 12 Apostles to stand at His side. By nature of these men's appointments we can gain a clearer understanding of the words of Jesus Christ.

    While Christ says that none stands by His side, He is saying this to make a clear distinction between His authority and the non-existant authority of man. No man can ever stand beside Jesus Christ by his own merits. But, Jesus Christ has openly invited all men everywhere to come unto Him and share in His eternal happiness.

    “The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” (Romans 8:16-17)

    Jesus Christ laid down His life out of pure love for mankind. If such a selfless act of sacrifice was out of pure love, is it hard to believe that He would then want to show more love by teaching us what He knows in our time throughout the Eternities?

  7. Isaiah 42:8

    8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

    This verse states that our Lord does not give his title or glory to anyone. (the verse says ANOTHER, which means a person.

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